tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post7556852091665770825..comments2018-06-03T02:13:49.956-04:00Comments on Abstinent Sexblog: The Gun ThingUncommonMurrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08999723370789881734noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-30509589086871415512011-01-12T07:57:06.373-05:002011-01-12T07:57:06.373-05:00spend the rest of the evening getting virtually hi...<i>spend the rest of the evening getting virtually hit in the face</i><br /><br />When I hear you say that, I assume you mean WoW, and perhaps more specifically tanking. I laughed at the "Not in the sexy way," though.AndrewVanbergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923434958244441857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-85596916487101868982011-01-12T00:34:53.920-05:002011-01-12T00:34:53.920-05:00Yeah, by the time you posted that I'd logged o...Yeah, by the time you posted that I'd logged off for dinner and then been snagged by friends to spend the rest of the evening getting virtually hit in the face. (Not in the sexy way.) I'll catch you later then.LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-82825735582958826332011-01-11T21:11:24.970-05:002011-01-11T21:11:24.970-05:00I am almost always online; sometimes away, but alw...I am almost always online; sometimes away, but always online. You are showing as offline to me but I sent a message anyway.AndrewVanbergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923434958244441857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-9496517789302010272011-01-11T19:19:53.315-05:002011-01-11T19:19:53.315-05:00You currently register as "awaiting authoriza...You currently register as "awaiting authorization", though I don't know if that means you're online or off. The IM is "syllogisticrat".LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-58538358366382625552011-01-11T18:46:55.421-05:002011-01-11T18:46:55.421-05:00Thanks! I don't know your IM address though, ...Thanks! I don't know your IM address though, so you won't hear from me that way unless you initiate. My old gunblogger identity is a big secret because my friends know it, and this blog contains venting about my ex and TMI. It's not a very interesting secret; I was a guest blogger on a now-abandoned 2A blog and probably made one or two dozen posts total. I think you did comment on one that was about evolution and bad education. When I just checked back the archives seem to be gone though.AndrewVanbergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923434958244441857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-52281720154370757512011-01-11T17:05:37.649-05:002011-01-11T17:05:37.649-05:00If for some reason you're interested enough to...<i>If for some reason you're interested enough to guess, please do it by email or IM.</i><br /><br />I can't guess- I tend to remember the names of my commenters who comment with any frequency even if it was awhile ago- but I've added you to my IM contacts.LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-4498531301675226482011-01-11T10:02:42.251-05:002011-01-11T10:02:42.251-05:00"You can reduce the possibility of being take..."You can reduce the possibility of being taken by surprise, and of being selected by an attacker at all, by taking classes with experienced police officers that help you know what to look for."<br /><br />And, that's it exactly. The attacker is not nearly as sneaky as you think. There is universal body language that you can learn to detect, and you will always know when someone is up to no good. For instance, if someone looks at you from across the street, touches their face, looks around, and approaches you; you're about to be attacked. If you square up to them with an aggressive stance, lock eye contact, and address them, they'll likely reassess the situation and move on. If not, you've bought plenty of time to unholster and defend yourself.Evyl Robot Michaelhttp://evylrobot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-89166087677189820842011-01-11T07:12:34.851-05:002011-01-11T07:12:34.851-05:00Perversecowgirl, it is possible for an attacker to...Perversecowgirl, it is possible for an attacker to take you by surprise enough to make a gun useless. That's not the only way it happens though.<br /><br />There are a lot of situations where having a gun may help even without training. One all-too-common scenario is the ex who starts pounding on the door and shouting, then breaks it down. The intended victim has a bit of time to prepare in that case; but usually not enough time for police to arrive.<br /><br />One of my friends was in his car stuck in traffic at a light late one night. Someone suddenly tried the passenger-side door (locked), then pounded on the window. He pulled back his shirt to show the revolver on his hip; the man held up his hands and left.<br /><br />An attacker almost never takes himself or herself by surprise; they follow an intended victim around a bit looking for a good location and opportunity and deciding how much risk this victim represents. You can reduce the possibility of being taken by surprise, and of being selected by an attacker at all, by taking classes with experienced police officers that help you know what to look for. For example, I look for people following me and detour around spots that would be good for someone to jump out.AndrewVanbergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923434958244441857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-75611950058246748532011-01-10T22:05:43.267-05:002011-01-10T22:05:43.267-05:00I always get seriously confused by some of the sim...<i>I always get seriously confused by some of the simultaneous views of criminals I see presented. There's "he'd just take the gun away from me", which seems to suggest most of them are fearlessly brave super-criminals willing to charge down on a gun pointed at him in a heartbeat</i><br /><br />I think it seems to suggest that by the time you even realized there was a serious threat, the person would <i>already be too close</i>.<br /><br />I mean, I've never been mugged or stranger-raped, but I'm assuming usually the guy doesn't stand twenty feet away and declare his intentions in a loud, clear voice. Probably he'll act harmless and nice until he's close enough to actually do stuff to me. <br /><br />I would imagine that if a guy is posing a definite threat to my well-being - enough of a threat that I'd feel justified in drawing a weapon - and he's <i>not</i> right up in my face, it's probably because he has a gun pointed at <i>me</i>.<br /><br />Again, I've never been carrying a gun and gotten attacked by a stranger, so I don't really know how it'd go. I've only been roughed up by boyfriends (who easily wrenched any makeshift "weapon" away from me, btw). So all I can do is speculate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-50542211081985752262011-01-10T21:49:06.056-05:002011-01-10T21:49:06.056-05:00No problem, Michael. I just figured opening up a ...No problem, Michael. I just figured opening up a thread for a general debate on gun control was enough debate for one thread.AndrewVanbergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923434958244441857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-35105229281697280162011-01-10T21:08:00.485-05:002011-01-10T21:08:00.485-05:00Sorry about that, Mouse. Feel free to knock my co...Sorry about that, Mouse. Feel free to knock my comment to the other post. I've got opinions on all kinds of things, and I can surely make some noise about firearms opinions as well as anything else.Evyl Robot Michaelhttp://evylrobot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-56939421924530992752011-01-10T20:21:29.105-05:002011-01-10T20:21:29.105-05:00LabRat, you've heard from me under the old nam...LabRat, you've heard from me under the old name, but I don't know that you'd remember it. I have a lot more to say here than I did before. If for some reason you're interested enough to guess, please do it by email or IM.<br /><br />The link from your site to The Pervocracy was sorta the first step that brought me here.AndrewVanbergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923434958244441857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-60361342103879231712011-01-10T20:05:34.657-05:002011-01-10T20:05:34.657-05:00Penny, actually I started out blogging in gun &...<i>Penny, actually I started out blogging in gun & political blogging.</i><br /><br />Huh, I wonder if I know you under another name. Of course there are so damn many gun and political blogs that's probably not the case.<br /><br />I always get seriously confused by some of the simultaneous views of criminals I see presented. There's "he'd just take the gun away from me", which seems to suggest most of them are fearlessly brave super-criminals willing to charge down on a gun pointed at him in a heartbeat, but contrast to "I don't want to escalate/threaten him" which seems to suggest the same psycho has a well-developed sense of justice and mercy. <br /><br />I figure that out of two choices, "leave all control over the situation in the hands of the person whom the only thing I know about is they're willing to violate my rights", and "have a chance at deciding the outcome myself", I'd rather take the chance even if I could lose. <br /><br />As for my mechanical skill, I figure if I can operate a car reliably I can operate a much simpler instrument. Sure, I may still screw up, but it will neither keep me away from cars nor guns.LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-34315538631038295982011-01-10T18:25:12.565-05:002011-01-10T18:25:12.565-05:00Evyl Robot, welcome! But, to you and Ozymandias, ...Evyl Robot, welcome! But, to you and Ozymandias, that's too many issues for one thread; this is the gun thread. You are welcome to discuss it in comments to my <a href="http://abstinentsexblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/evolution-and-genesis.html" rel="nofollow">post on evolution and Genesis</a>, where I explain a bit about why I don't see Darwin's theory as being in conflict with the Bible and show that I basically agree with Ozymandias's position on the interpretation of the first chapters of Genesis.<br /><br />I'll put my answer to your point there.AndrewVanbergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923434958244441857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-87995592332620549902011-01-10T17:57:59.743-05:002011-01-10T17:57:59.743-05:00"Genesis is a creation myth, not a science te..."Genesis is a creation myth, not a science textbook. Anyone who gets confused about the difference, theist or atheist, should be sent to an intensive course in world mythology until they are sensible."<br /><br />Wow, Ozy. That certainly is an authoritative and blanket way to put it. Who died and made you The Supreme Prophet of the New Era? Have you even read The Book of Genesis? Very little of it has anything to do with creation. Yes, that's how it starts, but there's a lot more in the book than, 'Then The Lord said... ...and it was.' It really bothers me when people make blanket statements as if they are the ultimate authority and know what's best for everyone else. It reminds me of a high school chemistry teacher where I graduated, who made comments about evolution being a 'true, proven fact.' She basically told the class that they could believe anything that they wanted but that it made them stupid if they didn't believe in Darwinist origin of life. And, in the spirit of blanket statements, let me say that hardcore Darwinism is nothing more than reheated spontaneous generation, incidentally. In its current form it's pretty much the quaint relics of the age of 'science' that was based on alchemy and phrenology. But, you can believe whatever you want to, I suppose. ;)Evyl Robot Michaelhttp://evylrobot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-36585076713676716462011-01-10T10:52:54.951-05:002011-01-10T10:52:54.951-05:00Mousie-- Well, assuming you are squeamish about kn...Mousie-- Well, assuming you are squeamish about knives, don't have any tall buildings nearby and don't know which/how many pills will cause a fatal overdose...<br /><br />I know, but most suicidal people of my acquaintance were so far gone they can't realize it and think everyone would be happier if they were dead.<br /><br />I don't mean to depress people! I just wanted to correct for accuracy.<br /><br />Genesis is a creation myth, not a science textbook. Anyone who gets confused about the difference, theist or atheist, should be sent to an intensive course in world mythology until they are sensible.Ozymandiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08410555827569922830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-60869888283169412222011-01-09T23:59:51.900-05:002011-01-09T23:59:51.900-05:00Penny, actually I started out blogging in gun &...Penny, actually I started out blogging in gun & political blogging. Friends know about that blog, so I did not want to use it to vent about my ex; I want them to stay friends with us both. Also a lot of what I say here is TMI for them.<br /><br />I think if one takes a really serious look at Genesis, as St. Augustine did in 400 AD when he wrote <i>The Literal Interpretation of Genesis</i>, one finds that Genesis is not a simple story and especially not a natural history lesson. An earlier post on that is <a href="http://abstinentsexblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/evolution-and-genesis.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.AndrewVanbergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923434958244441857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-70596175886684384222011-01-09T23:33:12.369-05:002011-01-09T23:33:12.369-05:00Careful Mousie, get into gun blogging and there is...Careful Mousie, get into gun blogging and there is a whole new community to get acquainted with. <br />A couple of things, I think you can actually reconcile creationism with evolution to a certain degree and as far is faith is concerned is far less of an issue than many make it out to be. If God can turn water into aged wine, he can certainly create evolved beings.<br />There is no mystery to gun training. If you can learn the motor skills to tie your shoes, you can learn to responsibly handle a gun. Now I am far from an expert and am not offering any advice on the internet. That's why there are gun bloggers with far more knowledge than I.Pennyhttp://marriedfreaks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-57992869248248172642011-01-09T21:16:35.602-05:002011-01-09T21:16:35.602-05:00I'm always very sorry to hear you mention the ...I'm always very sorry to hear you mention the suicidal impulses. People love you in person as well as on the Internet.<br /><br />I don't feel like it would be particularly difficult to kill oneself, but I'm sure not going to explain any of the methods. I have two friends whose fathers killed themselves, neither with a gun.<br /><br />It is incredibly devastating to those left behind. Far worse than accidental death.AndrewVanbergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923434958244441857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7616558788482418353.post-23419993805465251662011-01-09T19:59:23.726-05:002011-01-09T19:59:23.726-05:00The suicide thing, Mousie, is somewhat wrong. In m...The suicide thing, Mousie, is somewhat wrong. In my experience most of my serious suicidal impulses have been stymied by, well, not having anything to kill myself with atm. (It is actually somewhat difficult to kill yourself.) I think someone with a history of suicidal ideation should think very closely before buying a gun. <br /><br />Of course, that doesn't mean guns should be banned for everyone.Ozymandiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08410555827569922830noreply@blogger.com